Curse

elpedro · Oct 18, 2008, 07:55 PM // 19:55

Hey guys, this is pretty much new to me posting here on Guru (other than the odd guild ad)

I'm the guild leader of Pirates Of The Searing [YoHo] - you may have heard of us, may not. I would class our guild as highly successful, attracting a huge amount of interest and members; obviously with this you have a large amount of people leaving. However, things are starting to change. Our core players (members and officers) are losing their interest, some have already moved on, others contemplating.

Would you agree that as a game, the content in GW is drying up and an alarming rate - more so for the people like myself who have played since the start? The pressure it is putting on me as 'the lead guy' is crazy, I have people PMing me, leaving posts on the forum complaining of the lack of activity and events taking place. The bottom line however is, we do organise these things, but there is no real desire from the members to take part; they almost seem hypocritical.

YoHo has been ran by more or less the same core people since our first 6 months or so. If they aren't interested and helping as much, the guild will surely come to a halt.

So what do I want for the guild? There's no way I would jump overboard

YoHo will be around in GW2 but until then, I need to keep things moving. Granted, we are still relatively large despite these setbacks (80+ total). I would really appreciate any ideas for boosting activity. As a leader figure, I have been the one who has conjured plans, put together teams, provided the goods in terms of our Ventrilo, forum, website etc. But I am genuinely stuck. Any other similar guilds in terms of age and size experiencing this?

Ty in advance Guru community.

Guardian

mastar of warrior · Oct 18, 2008, 08:03 PM // 20:03

I guess all guilds have ups and downs of ppl leaving or staying.

Tyla · Oct 18, 2008, 08:08 PM // 20:08

Yes, it is declining. My own activity has decreased dramatically, but mainly because I've found something other to do than to wait for GvG's and PuG or friends list AB. Starcraft, Diablo II etc are all pretty hawt.

@Pedro: He's talking about the URL you posted.

jiggles · Oct 18, 2008, 08:23 PM // 20:23

i 'Play' guild wars for about 14 hours a day. 10 of them hours im standing in my guildhall telling myself to buy another game, the other 4 im gvg'ing and telling myself im crazy. I'm pretty bored with GW atm, been playing for 41 months and with nothing new happening its pretty boring. I totally agree with what your saying.

ReZDoGG · Oct 18, 2008, 08:38 PM // 20:38

I moved on to Warhammer like everyone else. It does seem kind of "clunky" when you first play it, but if you stick with it long enough, everything seems to get better and better. Guildwars will be a ghost town by end of winter.

wind fire and ice · Oct 18, 2008, 08:55 PM // 20:55

It's declining a bit,honestly its what you would expect to happen in a 3+ year old game.

People who have ben with it since the start are getting tired of it.

As for guild help,these days most people prefer to go guildless,soo good luck making the guild grow.

byteme! · Oct 18, 2008, 09:03 PM // 21:03

Unless you are after titles (pointless), going after that last piece of armor or weaponry there really is nothing left to do. Most of the special weekend events only fuel a persons willingness to title grind more. If you eliminate the grind in this game you have nothing to do. Literally. All the highend areas (places of interest for many) are monopolized by specific builds or you need a good guild. PuGs are slowly declining as well. Good players don't/won't PuG which only makes things that much worse. It's understandable that a game over 3+ years old is bound to get stale but I've noticed decline long before GW ever hit the 3 year plateau. I believe some of the nerfs/buffs/changes over the years caused too much collateral damage. I also believe Anet knew this which is why they eventually split PvE and PvP. Too little too late though. The damage was already done. It's very discouraging as a player to spend countless hours developing and learning a build and playstyle to your liking only to have it changed in the blink of an eye.

upier · Oct 18, 2008, 09:07 PM // 21:07

Just accept the fact that there is only so much one can do in PvE without new content.
Probably the best thing you can do is create a gathering place for your guildies that move onto new games. At least that way you get to stay in touch.

It's the people - not the game.

KiyaKoreena · Oct 18, 2008, 09:23 PM // 21:23

We basically put our guild into hibernation until GW2. There are still a few that log in and play a bit, some that come on every few months looking for news, but our guildies are quite self sufficient so we have forgone organizing large outings, running any more contests, or even recruiting (except friends of current members, with the expressed knowlege we have scaled back activities.). All our members have finished all the quests and missions at least once and are off amusing themselves poking at titles or with other games until GW2. We chose to run ours as a social guild and never demanded high activity from anyone and we know many will join back in GW2 because we like each others company. There is only so much a guild leader can to do try to motivate people and once its at that point I say its hibernation time.

Iuris · Oct 18, 2008, 09:28 PM // 21:28

Quote:

Would you agree that as a game, the content in GW is drying up and an alarming rate - more so for the people like myself who have played since the start?

While I understand what you mean, there's nothing alarming about a game's experience drying up after thousands of hours of play time.

Me, I'd suggest exchanging emails, so you can find yourselves again in GW2. In the mean time, let the first one with an idea for what to do lead a group and do it. Like, go sightseeing. Every map has something nice to see.

Steboy93 · Oct 18, 2008, 09:56 PM // 21:56

I imagine the reason it is declining is because more and more players are beginning to accomplish their long term goals and are thus losing interest.

You best bet would be to keep organising events and perhaps to promote keen players who still love gw to officer to lighten your event hosting burden.

Wolf2581 · Oct 18, 2008, 10:42 PM // 22:42

It sounds like you need to find people who are not as high-maintenance. Maybe an economy-sized case of Adderall will work out. But to answer your question, no, I do not think the game is drying up. Even after more than three years, I still have plenty I can do.

The underlying problem might be that many players seem to look for instant gratification. They see something they want, and they spend either days upon days working toward it or ridiculous amounts of gold paying someone else to get it for them. Then they get burned out. I have seen it happen with many games, and unfortunately Guild Wars is no exception.

Cathode_Reborn · Oct 18, 2008, 11:08 PM // 23:08

Do you really expect a game to stay new and exciting after 3 years?

If the thought of people leaving the game after years is really surprising to you, you're probably attached to GW on an unhealthy level.

All guilds go dead eventually.

GWEXTREEMFAN · Oct 18, 2008, 11:15 PM // 23:15

i guess you gotta live with it
all games start to suck at some point
if you're still happy playing gw, give it some tries to find people at still have fun playing, if not give your guild a rest till gw 2

was same with me
guilds gone into a break till gw2 since gw just doesnt give that kind of fun it used to for me and my friends

noneedforclevernames · Oct 18, 2008, 11:17 PM // 23:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by wind fire and ice

It's declining a bit,honestly its what you would expect to happen in a 3+ year old game.

People who have ben with it since the start are getting tired of it.

As for guild help,these days most people prefer to go guildless,soo good luck making the guild grow.

that isn't the least bit true. Starcraft is continuing to expand and it's 10 years old.
English commentaries in Korea
Sending more foreigners to play in Korea
Etc..

Nessar · Oct 18, 2008, 11:45 PM // 23:45

Well, with my guild/alliance being more of a social type, people can come on for days and poof. Its either, they're bored, they've done everything, they found another game, or they have a life to attend to.

Now, I can say for my guild, we sit around for hours trying to find something to do. We might uw, fow, some hm area once in a while. Otherwise, we're kind of just waiting for anet to add something new...

I kinda don't think the game is dying because there are plenty of newbies who come through piken everyday. Then I kinda do think its dying. We've played the game and soaked it of everything its had. Sure you can chase titles, money, armor, and weapons. What left after that? Not a a lot of people can do UW SC or DoA without a specific build/rank/blah blah. Urgoz and Deep is pretty much dead w/o a guild.

So in conclusion, People have played the game to death, therefore getting bored and obviously the game dies. But there are also those new people who keep it alive...

(I'm obviously coming from a PvE'rs perspective btw >>)

Calista Blackblood · Oct 18, 2008, 11:59 PM // 23:59

Imo the only thing that will benefit GW now is GW2 and forgetting about it.The oldschool players are bored and moving on and the new players aren't really impressing anyone.

It's like bankruptcy (sp) the intake can't meet the outgoing,making recruitment/maintaining guilds and alliances hard which in turn affects everyone

Age · Oct 18, 2008, 11:59 PM // 23:59

I have only 20 atm and most have been offline for over a month or a few.Yeah a lot of them have gone on to play WoW and other games.They haven't told me when or if they are coming back except for one.Yeah it is drying up.

dilan155 · Oct 19, 2008, 01:34 AM // 01:34

people are bore, what can you expect eh?. everything is old now and people are moving on to other things.

pumpkin pie · Oct 19, 2008, 02:40 AM // 02:40

Guild Wars is not declining, it is what it is, players simply lost interest after playing it for 3 plus years.